BERNARD R. ROY, Ph.D.

THE PHILOSOPHICAL VALUE OF COFFEE-HOUSE DEBATES

© Bernard R. Roy
Department of Philosophy
Baruch College, CUNY

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The latest issue of Le Vilain Petit Canard, a French monthly devoted to philosophical debates in public places, gives a list of 130 cafés, which, throughout France, offer havens for philosophical debates. The list reads like a newspaper theater listing: name and address of the café, day and time of the debate, and name of the philosopher who moderates the debate. From all accounts, all are doing very well; some, which turn away people each week, are doing extremely well. How can the success be explained?

My initial response is that a lot of people benefit from the experience. To begin with, the philosopher-animator, by accepting to submit his/her ideas to public scrutiny may discover that they need greater support; he/she may also gain both by attracting potential paying clients for private philosophical counseling, and by (sometime) getting remunerated for leading the debate. Then, there is the public who naturally benefits, otherwise it would not bother coming. It does not matter that the benefits are vicarious, genuinely intellectual, or social; the activity, albeit occasionally intellectual, is of an entertaining nature. Finally, I take it that the café owner must reap revenue and exposure from the gathering, and that’s good for business. But if it seems fairly obvious that all these people clearly benefit from the experience, what shall be said about philosophy itself? Does it, or can it gain? If it does, what does it gain? If it doesn’t, does it get damaged? In short, are the débats de cafés, as they are called overseas, what philosophy is supposed to be about? In this paper, I want to argue that there is a substantial gain for philosophy, and I’ll explain in what consists the gain. Furthermore, I’ll attempt to show that the débat de café, like a Phoenix, fuel and perpetuate the French café-culture out of which it was born. The café is to the French the social equivalent of what the agora must have been to the Athenians, or of what the baths must have been to the Romans, such that any culture interested in bringing philosophy to the public must do so in its social equivalent of the French café , the Athenian agora, or the Roman baths. I’ll finish by discussing some candidates for that social equivalent in North America.

I think that it is fairly uncontroversial to trace the origin of the café-philo to the late French philosopher, Marc Sautet. Marc Sautet was a Nietzsche scholar who was inspired by the works of Gerd Aschenbach in practical philosophy. He left the Instituts d’Etudes Politiques de Paris, where he taught from 1990 to 1997, and went on to pioneer what he called a cabinet de philosophie. Weekly debates in the back room of an average Café began what was to become a hearth of activities which defined the cabinet. The Café is the Café des Phares, a small unpretentious and rundown café/bistro that looks over the populist Place de la Bastille, one of Paris’ most motley assemblage of social architecture. The famed Bastille prison once stood where now there is a large and bustling odd-shaped plaza easily identified by the July Column. The Colonne de Juillet is a 171 feet-tall bronze column that stands not quite in the center, and that supports the gilded figure of liberty. It celebrates all the Parisians who died toppling three monarchs of France, Louis XVI (1789), Charles X (1830) and Louis-Philippe (1848). Scattered around the column, one finds a modern Opera House (one of François Mitterrand’s Grand Projet), a marina in a canal that berths work and leisure boats, a visible underground metro stop, a merry-go-round and other temporary children’s rides, and both Hausmann-style and tenement-style buildings. When visiting Paris, one cannot help but be struck by the opposition between the asymmetry of the Place de la Bastille and the military symmetry of the Place du Général De Gaulle (formerly Place de l’Etoile). Whether it was fortuitous or planned the choice was prophetic. It (over)dramatically signaled the "freeing" of philosophy from its regulated confines, and marked the beginning of a flurry of populist philosophical activities of a practical nature. Marc Sautet developed his practice, which, at the time of his death, included private counseling, hosting dinners with philosophical discussions, guiding tours to places around the world that have philosophical interest, leading debates on the Internet, holding seminars in businesses, and even authoring and marketing a philosophical game. He wrote about the beginnings and the experiences of his cabinet in Un café pour Socrate, published by Robert Laffont in 1995, and he edited a newsletter called Philos. He died a young man in March 1998.

What Aschenbach and Sautet did for philosophy is good for philosophy. Why and how? Philosophy is either a discourse restricted to professional philosophers or it is not. But can I characterize philosophy without raising a philosophical issue? I’ll try by giving a ultra-minimal characterization; doing philosophy consists in critically examining the foundation of our common sense beliefs before they cause conflict. Doing philosophy is a little bit like scratching where it does not itch; thus, whether one is a professional philosopher or not, doing philosophy requires disinterested curiosity, and courage; and in general, the more "knowledge" one has about a subject, the more courage it will take to examine it. If ignorance breeds audacity, erudition brings about caution. Thus, anyone who dares to look into, and challenge his or her system of beliefs is doing philosophy. In this sense philosophy is a kind of therapy for a way of life, for our common sense beliefs guide our lives. So understood, philosophy cannot be restricted to professional philosophers. Of course, in that sense, and at worst, the practice is likely to be wasteful, for the wheel may be reinvented many times; but no harm will ever be done, and occasionally some insights will contribute to the growth of philosophy.

Some professional philosophers may object to this lack of efficiency and insist that anyone pretending to do philosophy ought to be familiar with the corpus of philosophy. To this I respond that first of all it is unlikely that two philosophers will agree as to what constitutes the corpus of philosophy, and, supposing they do, they risk, by so restricting the discourse, to constrain it. The Scylla of reinventing the wheel makes way for the Charibnis of suffocating philosophy. Philosophy, as the historians of the discipline are apt to remind us, is carved into schools which perished under the weight of their own arguments; the most dramatic example is furnished by the Scholastics ensnared in minute disputes until the Humanists came and liberated philosophy by taking a look at it from a different angle. That liberation paved the way for a revolution in the sciences. Every once in a while a great school needs to liberate itself from the constraints it imposes on itself, and generally this liberation comes from the outside. Furthermore, it is good to bear in mind that philosophy, like other arts and sciences, has no method of discovery. So that discoveries are as likely to be the result of assiduous and focused research as they are to bob from the stream of consciousness of a public debate. Great schools of cuisine and music came about as a result of the creativity of common people and would die if they did not remain open to the creation of untrained cooks and musicians. The greatest composers owe the melodies they are so good at developing to folklore; the greatest chefs owe the basic combination of ingredients to families of farmers, fishermen and hunters. The same has to be true of philosophy; the insightful questions of philosophy are as likely to come from outsiders than insiders. Einstein himself thought that he could learn more from a child’s question than from a colloquium assembling the best minds in physics. As the practice strives outsiders and insiders face each other, and either is bound to deliver the other of some potted belief. Honi soit qui mal y pense! Shame on the one who shouts sacrilege when an insider’s debate is fueled by an outsider’s insight ! I do not see how philosophy could not benefit from, or be damaged by public debates.

Naturally the role of the animator is crucial. If he or she is a professional philosopher, he or she has to be able and willing to recognize the value of the outsider’s insights. Not only ought the animator to stay clear of condescension, but he or she also must be able to step outside the dominant professional discourse, and be willing to put his or her "professional" beliefs to a series of severe Popper-style tests. The philosophical value of the débats de cafés rests on the ability of the animator to integrate the popular discourse into the professional one, even at the risk of displacing the latter. Furthermore, a conscientious animator, as Marc Sautet was, will, after each debate, write about the issues raised during the debate; issues and responses are now crafted into sentences and paragraphs by the philosopher. Isn’t this the way philosophy gains?

Finally, there is another value to submitting the professional discourse to public scrutiny, and that is that it is likely to "sting" several participants and motivate them to become professional philosophers. Too many cooks may spoil a particular broth, but there can never be too many cooks working to improve the broth.

So, why is it that in France many professional philosophers, for the most part denizens of academic institutions, are reported to snub the practice? The same issue of The Vilain Petit Canard contains an editorial that attributes the success of café-philos to the failure of the mode of teaching philosophy in French schools, where philosophy classes mostly consist of authoritarian scholarly monologues, with nary an effort to open a dialogue with the students. Although the explanation is a bit strong, for not all participants in public debates are frustrated French students, and public debates are increasingly becoming popular outside of France where teaching methods are less aloof and authoritarian than they are in France, it does reinforce my earlier point that doing philosophy requires courage, and it suggests the non- philosophical point that French teachers of philosophy are cowardly and avid of control. Professional philosophers, the editorialist suggests, react to an invitation to a café-philo the same way virgins react to an invitation out, "avec orgueil et effarouchement" (with pride and fright); and that if they condescend to attend they either remain silent or speak to correct or to give a name to what someone else has just belabored describing. The suggestion is misleading and the condemnation reads too much like a satiric echo of what conservative newspapers have said of the practice; they have denounced it as pseudo-intellectual mostly because it ignores the division between "high" and "low" art, a division to which cultural elitists are sensitive. Obviously, if there is an intellectual elite, it is going to object to the popularization of philosophy; this is the principal activity of the elitist. However, that there is a successful movement making popular an institutionalized discipline attests to the minority status of the elite. It also attests to the end of the tyranny of the elite. Many of those who criticize elitism were once part of the elite. Most café-philos and cabinets were started by academic philosophers who remained academics. I suspect that a number of professional philosophers have adopted a wait-and-see attitude, or are too busy doing their professional duties, or just wait for the right opportunity to present itself. Public debates are still very young and there is no telling how many members of the academic establishment snubs them and how many support the idea.

Of course, a profession remains a profession by exercising caution in its endorsement of new practices. This does not imply an outright condemnation. There will always be professionals who will feel threatened by the practice the way some physicians are offended when patients argue their diagnosis, but neither the profession nor the practice need be concerned about their cries to sacrilege and their invocations to "high" art. I attended a few café-philos in France, and although the participants were for the most part non-professional, they were by no means exclusively non-professional. I also saw Marc Sautet debate Jean-Luc Marion, one of France’s foremost philosopher and member of the Sorbonne faculty, on the value of public debates in a television show hosted by the TV guru of French popular culture, Bernard Pivot. I sensed no outrage, neither orgueil nor effarouchement, in Professor Marion’s response to an invitation to debate. He may not be ready for the café-debate, but he certainly was present and an active participant in a popular TV debate. The editorial’s concerns are not real concerns and I fear that its author is creating a straw-man in the hope of raising the status of public debates. He is looking for a monarch to topple, but the monarch is long dead. Café-philos and academic philosophy need each other and can complement each other; neither one ought to either destroy or outdo the other.

Marc Sautet reflects this mutual dependence by explaining that in his debates, he tries to strike a happy balance between two undesirable extremes: on the one hand wild therapy session (séance de thérapie sauvage), and on the other something that would look like a professional colloquium (une cercle d’initiés). Professionals and non-professionals are both welcome provided neither mistakes the floor for a dais or for an analyst’s sofa. The debates are structured and moderated so as to give as many participants as is possible a chance to air his or her beliefs. Topics of discussions are picked within a five-minute period at the beginning of the debate so that no one is tempted to brush up on the literature before hand and either crush the debates with rubbles of encyclopedic lore or smother it with impersonal psittacisms.

The influence of Gerd Aschenbach and Marc Sautet’s has reached America, thanks, in great part, to the efforts of the ASPCP (American Society for Philosophical Counseling and Psychotherapy). More and more devoted and courageous American philosophers try launching a counterpart to the French café-philos in their community. However, the success of café-philos in France is directly connected to the existing success of a café culture. America has many Cafés, but it does not have a Café culture in the sense the French have one. Now that I have argued that Café-philos are good for philosophy, I need ask what is the social equivalent of the French Café in America, for I seriously doubt that the movement can strive without the support of an established social institution such as the Athenian agora, the Roman baths, or the French Café ? The practice presupposes some social support.

It cannot be the French Cafés because although their designs can be imported the experiences cannot. French Cafés are socio-cultural events; they bring an entire community out in the open. Thus, they are places to see and be seen, and places to hide; places to read, to eavesdrop on other people’s conversation, comment of their clothes, their dogs or their partners; they are places to discuss politics, the arts, television and the pedestrian who just passed by; they are places to display your indigenous status or conceal your strangeness; places to show off your originality in sartorial orchestration, in your choice of partner, or in your choice of consommation. It is the quintessential rendez-vous point. There is a long history of cultural movements taking shape in the openness of the Café. La Coupole and Le Dôme attracted artists in the 20’s and 30’s; the Café‚ de Flore and Les Deux Magots attracted the existentialist writers of the 40’s and 50’s; Brasserie Lipp continues to attract politicians. What makes those cafés what they are is not so much their designs, but the group dynamics of their devotees. Their designs, in fact, are fairly uniform: an outside terrace that faces the sun, but that is heated in the winter and shaded in the summer. Its tables have small round marble tops girded by a wide brass rim; the tops rest on a single heavy cast iron leg with flowery motifs. The chairs are made of woven rattan, generally with a dominant beige color and accents of green, brown or red. A large bar with a top made out of some metal (brass or zinc) dominates the inside; it is both a coffee bar and a liquor bar. Seating consists in facsimile leather banquettes with high backs whose tops form a ridge for the handy temporary storage of bags, books, newspapers, and whatever else. The floor is tiled and often has a wavy surface from the constant foot traffic of the wait staff. The bright lighting is assured by ceiling fixtures and wall sconces. There are wall mirrors hiding partitions. If culture has a favorite meeting place, the favorite meeting place of the French is the Café. In large part, it is the status of favorite meeting place that allowed the public debates to grow so rapidly. What is America’s favorite meeting place? I came up with four candidates: the shopping mall, the coffee-house (individually-owned or chain-owned), the bookstore, or the Internet.

The Internet is a special phenomenon. It definitely contributes to the popularity of philosophy, but it does so without competing with the Cafés. There are numerous specialized lists to which anyone can subscribe at no cost. Any subscriber can join in the discussion. I am presently engaged in a world wide discussion of Descartes’ Regulae with a list managed by Fred Wilson of Bucknell University in Lewisburg, Pennsylvania, but the discussion is not like a Café debate. They are text rather than issue oriented, and non-philosophers rapidly drop out. I do not see how they can replace the Café; after all, part of Marc Sautet’s cabinet includes a "chat" page on the Internet. The Internet strengthens the Café debates.

Bookstores seem to be ideal spots. They provide an atmosphere that encourages intellectual activities. Moreover, large chains of bookstores are turning the traditional bookstore into multi-storied friendly libraries where comfortable lounge chairs and carpeted floors beckon potential buyers. The mega-stores generally include a coffee-house and a small isolated lecture area where authors discuss their work. This is the context that Professor Louis Marinoff of The City College of The City University of New York has chosen. Once a month he animates debates on a topic selected at the beginning of the encounter. Participants sit on folding chairs forming an ellipse with Professor Marinoff as one of the foci. Although the arrangement is conducive to a lively and focused debate, its formality and its separateness robs the gathering of its voyeuristic social component; the lack of a social component inhibits the levity of the occasion. The participants are not caught in familiar surroundings; they force themselves into the ellipse. Once in the ellipse it is difficult to hide. It feels more like attending an informal seminar than socializing amid a formal discussion. Within this context, it will be hard for the movement to reach the kind of serendipitous popularity it needs in order to free and open up the philosophical debate.

I have unjustified cultural prejudices toward shopping malls. However, last summer, at the Third International Conference of the ASPCP, I heard Professor Peter March, of Halifax Saint Mary’s University, enthusiastically describe his experiences animating philosophical debates at malls, terminals and parks. This led me to confront my prejudices, and I am glad I did. Why not the mall? It is an agora for non-Mediterranean climes. It has public meeting areas, and not every mall visitor is a shopper; some come to see and be seen, and to meet other people. Many come to have a drink, a meal or just a cup of coffee. Clearly, I must concede that the mall is a fit candidate, but what about odd cities, such as New York’s Manhattan or San Francisco where the mall, if it exists, does not play the same social role as it does in the average American city? Will we, Manhattanites, have to wait for the malls to come? Hardly! I answer. Manhattan is a mosaic of gigantic open malls; they are called neighborhoods. Going to a Gramercy Park, East village or West Village coffee-house, bar or diner is like going to a coffee-house, bar or restaurant of the XYZ mall.

I favor coffee-houses because of what they achieved in the 60’s and 70’s for folk music, jazz, poetry and political debates. Coffee-houses belong to American culture, and I see philosophical debates as contributing to this tradition, as well as I see the tradition benefiting from being identified with philosophical debates. The mark of the American coffee-house is informal hospitality; it is the place to "hang out," and strike a conversation with strangers or habitu‚ s, to put your feet up on a chair. They have no uniform designs by which they can be recognized. Professor Martine Lindquist of Stuyvesant High School has held at least one debate at such a coffee-house, the Northside Café in Brooklyn. All kinds of coffee-houses are opening everywhere in America. Their potential further growth has not escaped the attention of corporate America. Today, individual units of large chains of coffee-houses occupy every other block of neighborhoods and malls.

Whether a preference can be given to a chain-owned coffee-house or to an individually-owned one is not so evident. The former are inevitably more impersonal than the latter; one feels more "at home" in a place that is identifiable with a person who has permanence in the establishment. The rest is a matter of socio-cultural bias. The point is that coffee-houses, individually-owned or chain-owned, provide the basic social environment necessary to house the kinds of debates philosophy generates. Even if one goes to a mall for social entertainment, he or she will end up sitting down at a coffee-house. Public philosophical debates must continue to fuel the philosophical debates, and the American coffee-house provides the environment most conducive to the activity. I hope more philosophers (including myself) will find the courage to contact their favorite neighborhood coffee-house in order to persuade its owner or manager to host regular philosophical debates.

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